NEED TO KNOW
- Ghislaine Maxwell shared insight into the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
- In her newly released interview with a top Department of Justice (DOJ) official, Maxwell said the president and the disgraced financier “seemed friendly”
- Maxwell, one of Epstein’s closest confidantes, was convicted on child sex trafficking charges and sentenced to 20 years
Ghislaine Maxwell has shared insight into Donald Trump’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
The convicted child sex trafficker and Epstein confidante, 63, spoke with Attorney General Todd Blanche last month, in a conversation officially shared by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on Friday, Aug. 22.
The DOJ released a 300-plus-page transcript and corresponding audio files from the two-day interview, which took place in late July, in which Maxwell answered several questions surrounding Epstein and her apparent suspicions about his 2019 death, which was ruled a suicide.
During the discussion, Blanche, 51, asked Maxwell about the relationship she observed between Epstein and Trump, 79, whose administration has faced scrutiny over its handling of the Epstein case.
“I don’t know how they met, and I don’t know how they became friends,” Maxwell said. “I certainly saw them together, and I remember the few times I observed them together, but they were friendly. I mean, they seemed friendly.”
As Maxwell explained to Blanche, she “only ever saw them in social settings,” and she didn’t “recall any private settings” in which she observed the president and Epstein interact.
When asked about photographs of herself, Trump and Epstein over the years, Maxwell explained that they were taken in “social settings.”
“I don’t know Epstein’s — if he had — whatever the nature of the president’s friendship, if you will, or however you want to define that with Epstein, I was — never witnessed,” she said. “I think they were friendly, like people are in social settings.”
“I don’t think they were close friends, or I certainly never witnessed the president in any of — I don’t recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance,” Maxwell continued.
“I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting,” she added. “I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.”
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Maxwell, who said she “never in any context” heard about Trump being inappropriate with masseuses, told the DOJ that she believed she met Trump in the 1990s through her father, British media proprietor Robert Maxwell.
Maxwell’s father liked Trump “very much,” she said, adding that Trump was “very cordial and very kind” to her.
As for when she last saw Trump, Maxwell said it was sometime in the mid-2000s. “I admire his extraordinary achievement in becoming the president now. And I like him, and I’ve always liked him,” she told the DOJ. “So that is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him.”
Maxwell was also asked about Bill Clinton, whom she said was her “friend” and not Epstein’s. She added that she didn’t “believe” the former ever received a massage while with Epstein.
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The DOJ’s release of Maxwell’s interview transcript — and her openly angling for a pardon — comes six years after Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking charges in 2019, before he was found dead in his jail cell a month later, in what was deemed a suicide by hanging.
Maxwell was later convicted on child sex trafficking charges in 2021 for her role in facilitating Epstein’s abuse of young girls.
She was recently moved into the custody of a minimum-security federal prison camp in Texas — the same one housing disgraced Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes.
Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel promised to release more information on the Epstein case after joining the president’s administration earlier this year. The DOJ and FBI later released a joint memo in July, stating the investigation into Epstein’s alleged crimes and subsequent death in prison was complete and that his long-rumored “client list” did not exist — sparking renewed public interest in the circumstances surrounding the case.
When Elon Musk departed the Trump White House in May, he wrote during a rant on X that Trump was “in the Epstein files,” before he later walked back the post.
Trump, whose past interactions with Epstein have been documented, has called the files a “hoax” perpetrated by his political enemies.
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